Why has Gujarat been slow in the uptake of
It is difficult to pin it on a specific reason. One thing is that
Gujarat has traditionally done very well in the industry. It has done well in
trade and commerce as well. Its investment in stock markets has been very high.
Traditional businesses like chemicals, petrochemicals, diamond have done well.
So one thing would have been, they were far too busy exploiting whatever else
they were doing.
The other reason could be that the IT industry started taking
off in the mid 90s. It started in Bangalore, the NCR region, and to a lesser
extent in Mumbai.
Many of these boys went outside for better opportunities. The
new engineering graduates were able to find jobs in the south, with the help of
such support groups. The number of engineering graduates was very less, and with
this outflow, the number of graduates got reduced further. Companies did not
come here because people were not there. And people did not stay back because
the companies were not there. It became a cycle and the critical mass never took
Now things are changing. Many engineering colleges have been set
up in the last 10 years. There has been some natural growth-companies which
are here despite all this, are doing well. 2002-03 were bad years for IT, so the
investment climate was in any case not very good. Those things are now past. I
would say that we are seeing some kind of inflection point. One, there are a
much larger number of graduates available. Because of organic growth, the IT
industry in Gujarat is slightly bigger now.
How did the software industry come up in
the first place if there was no IT trained manpower in Gujarat?
The industry existed, but there was no scale. The IT industry even
today would be a couple of thousand crores. That is not a small amount. If you
take the STPI figures, the exports were Rs 500 crores. But, if you see
contextually, the 1 lakh crore for the country and out of the Rs 15-16,000 crore
for Karnataka alone, Rs 500 crore is very small. But for Rs 500 crore also you
A lot of cultural issues are also held
responsible for that. Is knowledge of English a reason for that?
The command of a particular language has nothing to do with the
culture per se, but I agree that English had been an issue here. English in
Gujarat is possibly not of that high standard as it would be in Bangalore or
Delhi or even Calcutta. This is the skill that is helping Calcutta and West
Bengal a great deal over the last few years.
What is the current manpower deployment in
Gujarat’s IT industry?
It would not be more that 20,000. The total investment would be
roughly 1.5 lakh to a person. Actually, this figure applies to ITeS/BPO
industry, which is heavily technology dependant. In some of the other IT-related
industries, the figure could be lower.
How will the growth of ITeS affect the
existing industries in Gujarat? Won’t it create a situation where the already
scarce engineering resources will move to the better paying IT services
I don’t think that would happen. If the IT industry grows, an
ecosystem would develop which would be useful to all the other industries. The
growth would attract more customers, enrich the existing ecosystem and that
would benefit the entire economy of the state. We are talking from an overall
perspective. So, while a unit or two might get definitely affected, overall the
industry will develop.
Do you think the new industries will
stretch thin the existing talent pool?
There would be an overlap. Gujarat produces 7,000 engineering
graduates a year, currently chances are that 200 get employment in the state,
4,000 go outside the state and the rest may change their line-going for an
MBA, go abroad, or manage ancestral business.
With the growth of the IT industry, the number of people going
out of the state would reduce. Even people who have migrated to other states,
may consider coming back. The comparison is with NRIs. A whole lot of them are
coming back to India because the opportunities available here, today, are better
than that may be available outside the country.
What are your plans over the next two
Currently, the space we are operating in has to do with Internet
security, online applications, and a major focus is in the e-Governance area.
Our hands are full with whatever activities we have. But, there are areas like
managed security services. Currently all the services that we provide are within
the country, now we want to take them abroad. We are focusing on electronic
procurement mainly in Gujarat. My certification services are provided on an
all-India basis. So I am working with many state governments and other large
PSUs also for e-procurement. Sometimes we even go further and enable their
entire vendor network, enabling their entire ecosystem. We are doing this with
many organizations like IFFCO, Northern Railway, now also with Indian Railways.
We have also developed PKI enabled DGFTs online application which accepts
applications for import licenses online. We are doing similar work for the Gas
Authority of India, government of Karnataka. Two-three states are looking at
digital signatures for filing of VAT returns, Deptt of Income tax-our role
here was enabling their systems so that their software could accept the digital
With its huge IT network catering to its
internal needs, is the GNFC into the business of providing connectivity?
We were in the business of providing bandwidth, but we are slowly
withdrawing from it. Because the scales just did not justify it. It is a much
cheaper option to take services from national operators, than to provide these
Which are the new technologies being
We are working on quite a few applications, essentially relating to
digital signature certificates technology for innovative things. We use it for
gatepass systems, for improvement of material and vehicles out of our factory in
Bharuch, etc. Normally, an authorized officer signs a gatepass and a security
guard at the gate checks it. The security person relies on the scratch of a
signature and he is too afraid to ask the authorized person if he signed it or
not. With 100s of vehicles moving out everyday, there could be pilferage or
tracking may be missing. With this system there is automatic tracking, a system
of locks, and it is the system that verifies the signature. We are looking to
implement it elsewhere as well.
We have done a successful pilot for the treasury department of
Gujarat, where the money or request for money, which was till now a paper-based
request, would be based on digital signatures.
On your expansion plans?
We have only scratched the surface in terms of digital signature
certificates, especially for different applications. Data center’s the same
story. We are an expanding team, we will take on more complex projects, and more
number of projects as well. Leasing of data center space is not on our radar.
This is a conscious decision.
What are the marketing initiatives for
Distribution is very important for digital signatures. Support is
also important. Ultimately, it is used by an individual user and he will have
individual problems. We have 175 partners across the country for the
distribution of these signatures. While others have a multi-tier distribution
channel, we supervise all our partners directly. And more the number of channels
you have, these may start being treated like commodity. We don’t do that, it
is still a technical product for us. We like to have better control of our
channel. So if it means me keeping 10 people with me to supervise 180 people, I
think that is a better option.